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>> that was very cool. >> all right. thank you so much for joining me today. amphoteric a whitfield, the cnn newsroom with jessica dean starts right now your ms cnn newsroom, i'm jessica dean in washington and we begin with breaking news police at the university of virginia. i just broke up a pro-palestinian encampment after declaring it and unlawful assembly seen as his full sandoval's joining us now, what well, what's the latest on this? >> so just go over witnessing right now play out in charlottesville, virginia on the university of virginia campus is really just the latest example of tensions rising on american university campus control room. we may or may not have some pictures. i believe of what has transpired over the last hour or so just to set the scene for viewers here as we hopefully queue up some images for you, so you could see yourself what's played out over the course of

several days, we have seen pro-palestinian demonstrators on the uva campus assembling there for several days, although they were really maintaining more of a picnic like environment. and i say that because they weren't any clear indications that they were using tense the university had made clear that is not something they wanted to see up. if not, that would be considered a violation of the university policy. and that would then prompt a response from the university or recently, at least in the last 24 hours, as you can see in these pictures here. i'm going to begin to see some of those signs of an actual encampment, including tents and that according to what we've heard from officials, is likely what triggered this police response. just in the last couple of hours. so what you had recently is virtually a standoff between law enforcement and some protesters now, to be clear, there's indication that some of the people that are seen in that video are really more spectators than protesters been unloads less. you do see people clapping being and chanting in solidarity with the participants of that encampment.

>> the uva went ahead and declared an unlawful assembly only moments ago, specifically in the area that's known there but tunga and chapel area that's where we believe these pictures are coming out of. >> and so officials are asking people at that location to disperse now also asking other folks on campus is simply avoid this area and this comes after some talks that we're ongoing between members of that encampment and uva, which is jessica, really just a carbon copy of weeks seen at other campuses which are these negotiations. these talks take place between some of these demonstrators and the university, the big item that continues to be a top demand really is divest smith jessica. >> all right. polo sandoval for us with the latest from charlottesville, virginia will continue to keep an eye on that. >> thanks. polo. also today, a change of scenery for former president donald trump from trading in the new york courtroom. he's been sitting in for the last week for the banquet halls of mar-a-lago he

said to be the main attraction at a fundraiser for the republican national committee's spring retreat. >> while the gop donors and high profile republican leaders will be there, including some people who very much like to be his vice president. >> cnn's alayna treene is live in palm beach for us with more on today's big event. and alina this is really the center of the republican universe right now it is. >> you're totally right. jess a lot of people, including wealthy donors, high profile republican leaders, and even the former president himself have been gathered in palm beach this weekend for both of the rnc weekend retreat, but also donald trump held a fundraiser at his mar-a-lago club today. now, i did just get some new details that i want to share with you about some of the conversations that are happening behind closed doors at the four seasons. and that includes this morning, chris lacivita and susie wiles, both co-campaign managers of the trump campaign, as well as tony fabrizio, one of donald trump's a leading pollsters gave a presentation to the

members who are gathered here this weekend and essentially they walked through the fundraising numbers that they had raised in april and that includes 76.2 million that they had raised last month. of course, we will not be able to see and verify those numbers until well, the fec report comes out, filings come out later this month, but multiple attendees telling me that they walked them through those numbers and other big news nugget that we got is that they walk through how they so a plans to expand the map in donald trump's favor in both minnesota and in virginia to traditionally more democratic leaning states. and they made the case for why they think they can be very aggressive. and some of those states we're learning a lot from that and luck you're totally right. you mentioned that some of the special guests this weekend include a number of people who are on donald trump's shortlist to become vice president. now some of those people include ohio senator j.d. vance. they're going to be doing a fundraiser. donald trump and vance and ohio later this month well, they will appear together. doug burgum,

the former or excuse me, the north dakota governor, is also in attendance as a senator tim scott. all people again and that we know have been on donald trump's potential list for vice presidential picks. however, jessica, do you want to just make very clear here that donald trump is still far away? from deciding who that is going to be when i speak with donald trump's team, they tell me that that decision will likely be made public closer to the republican national convention in july jessie. >> all right. alayna treene force and florida, thanks so much and joining us now is cnn senior political commentator and former republican congressman of illinois, adam kinzinger. >> it's a great see, you we're just hearing from our college ali, alayna treene about everything that's going on around mar-a-lago right now. >> it is clear that it's trump continues to spend his weeks in this courtroom in manhattan, he's also continues to be the center of the republican universe. >> yeah, he does. i mean, it's always interesting after these events to see the pictures that come out of mar-a-lago it's

really become like a weird kind of hollywood for certain people, which is unique. i don't know. i just politics demi never fell hollywood, but it does some people, the andrew christine thing is this vice president race. i mean, let's talk about who's not there kristi noem, after admitting to shooting or dog in the face, somehow thinking that that was going to help her in this vp stakes. as far as i know, she's not there. maybe she is, but she is certainly out of the running for vice president, i think because even donald trump would have a problem problem with that. so it'll be interesting to see all that, but i'm going to tell you what's going to happen is donald

answer on the ceasefire and release of hostages and the

reality in this moment is the only thing standing between the people of gaza and a ceasefire is a moss know what we've heard from american and israeli officials today is that even if hamas does agree to this framework, that's not necessarily the end of the road. >> there still will be some finer details that i have to negotiate. i think the real fear among american officials now is that if this all falls apart, that israel will launch that invasion into rafah that has been something that is at the top of mind for american officials. they have said that in order to do that, they need to see a credible plan from israel to protect the civilians that are sheltering there they haven't seen that yet. and what you've heard from prime minister benjamin netanyahu is that he will go into rafah with or without a deal. so that's sort of the big facet that's looming meeting over all of this at this point, right? >> right. and we'll just see how this unfolds. because as you say, even if they get too yes, now than they've got to get to, there's a lot more details to work out. all right.

kevin, you keep an eye on it. thanks. so much. and joining us now is former defense secretary under president donald trump, mark esper. he's now a cnn global affairs analyst secretary esper, thanks so much for being here with us what are you hoping to see from these talks in cairo? kevin just laid out some of the sticking points they've been sticking points throughout this process. but what might make this different? >> well, look, i think we all hope that there is an agreement going forward that would allow for the release of the hostages and i am here in arizona with the mccain institute where secretary of state, tony blinken spoke last night and he said very clearly, it's the ball is in hamas court right now. and they stand between the deal or no deal. >> however, i'm not sanguine about a deal. >> i think that the hamas will not give any ground until they have 100% confidence that this will lead to a permanent ceasefire. and the removal of israeli troops from gaza otherwise, they give up all their, all of their leverage, jessica, and that will expose them to the idf coming in and

finishing off rothko once and for all and you get the sense at all that that's something that israel would be willing to accept no not at all. i mean, the israeli population is telling bibi naught and yahoo and his government is war cabinet, at least two things. one is they want the immediate release of hostages had to, they want hamas destroyed. now that second part hasn't been the five-month generally, we could say it would be knocking out the remaining four the tines of militants that are in rafah taking out the leadership which includes yahya sinwar, the military leader in gaza, and then getting rid of the underground infrastructure of the tunnels as best as possible. so if not, if they don't do those things, then hamas is going to come out and declaring victory and we'll be right back to where we were seven months ago in many ways with hamas in charge declaring victory, it will look like in the street in gaza in the west

bank and look like a victory for hamas as well, which is not going to help the palestinian authority. so it's very complicated, but i think netanyahu the signaling very clearly one way or another they are going in and hamas is listening to that saying, why should we sign a deal unless it includes 100% agreement that they won't come in yeah. >> so let's talk a little bit more about that potential ground incursion in rafah. you laid out the prime minister netanyahu has said, we're going in with or without a hostage deal and we know that this white house, that the biden administration has said over and over again, we want to see a plan from israel on how they're going to evacuate citizens from rafah ahead of any sort of invasion there. and one source is now told cnn that this information that israel has given them some information. but at this point, they don't think it's enough to allow the administration to determine whether or not this is an executable and acceptable we'll plan. what do you make of all of this? and do you

think israel might potentially move ahead without us approval while you're right, some of the reporting out there, is that the united states has been briefed on a plan, but there's some doubt as to how credible it is and whether it is really executable. >> man, you're talking about moving king 1.31, 0.2 million people out of raffa, moving them around, getting them out of the out of the routes of advance of these ravens as they try and sweep through rafah. so it's gonna be very difficult. and i think at this point, netanyahu, his government pie feels that they've provided the americans what they need, but probably keep updating them. but again, i don't think that's going to delay the invasion of rafah if netanyahu thinks he needs to do that, he's not going to seek for seek joe biden's approval. he's going to do what he thinks he needs to do to finish off a moss and to meet the demands of the israeli people if he moves forward in that way, what kind of implications? >> do you think that has kinda moving forward both with their relationship with america, but

also globally yeah, it's, it's gonna be tough because an operation of that size in the city of that size, and how many people there is inevitably going to be more loss of civilian life we're just going to be tragic and that's going to weigh them down, but it's going to take weeks and weeks, jessica, for this to for this operation to conclude and you've got to look at the political calendar as well as at a time we've got the protests breaking out and dozens of american campuses across the united states over the invasion of gaza in response to the october 7 attacks. >> you're talking about this going through the summer and possibly into the democratic convention. in what august. so this is going to drag on politically for some time and even then it doesn't speak to the conclusion of how this all ends that hasn't been clarified either once once they let's assume they go into rafah, clear out the remaining battalions, get the leadership, accomplish everything they want to do. >> what happens after that? >> what's the governance

structure israel and control is a palestinian and could palestinians and control out of the west bank? there's now talk about maybe it is a an agreement among the united states, egypt, saudis, uae, and others to provide some type of policing force and governance for a period of time. >> but even when you get through that, what is the end state? >> is there a two-state solution or is there some type of other arrangement? none of that has been defined and really articulated at all. i think this drags out well into the rest of this year and arguably in the next year, it's just that complicated. >> there is there is so much there. >> i while i have you, i also want to talk about ukraine. >> ukraine saying this week, russia attack the eastern part of the country nearly 2000 times it's in a single day. we know that they've been fighting for over two years now we now have this new funding that congress has approved after much back-and-forth. and it looked like it maybe wasn't going to happen. >> do you think that's going to be the boost ukraine needs to ultimately, win this war, not

just survive, but when well it's the funding is important. it has provided a big morale booster, but there's boosting morale, then there's logistics. and the logistics of this fact is that it's going to take weeks and weeks, if not months, for really significant amounts that material and ammunition to be delivered to the ukrainian front lines at the same time, russia's is going to continue to press forward. they've seized about 200 square miles of ukrainian new ukrainian territory since the beginning of this year, they're going to try and do a little bit more before the may 9 victory date, but then we know that russia is going to press for a major offensive this summer as early as mid to late may. but going into the summer and they're going to try and capture as much ground as they can while the, while the weather is good, which gets back to your question. look, i don't think ukraine is going to be able to mask material get the platform steny, they still don't have 16 jets and then they have a big manpower

problem. they need to conscript and train and make sure those soldiers are prepared. so i don't, i don't expect to see a ukrainian counteroffensive really until spring of 19 year at the earliest. and so the question is can they hold out? can they marshal the forces, prepare them for the spring of next year? and then what are their chances of success? because russia will also be building up that same time. and then the big wildcard jessica, is who wins the presidential election here. and whether it's biden or trump, if it's trump, well, he decided not to not to support the ukrainians. he could turn off that ammunition and materials, pick it pretty quickly. and that would of course pull the rug out from the ukrainians. that point in time all right, more to come on that i'm sorry, mark esper, always great to have you on. >> thanks so much thank you. the relentless flooding threat continues in texas where rivers are surging to the highest levels seen since hurricane harvey. and even more rain is expected to fall over weekend. we'll take you down wow,

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whole who are very emotional about what they're going through. >> let me set the scene for you because this is a street that lids leads into a neighborhood that they call river bottoms there's a lot of people who live back there. a lot of them live in mobile homes or rvs. but you can see that it is completely covered in water. there is a blue truck way back there. you can't see it. i talked to the owner of that truck and he says that overnight, the water started rising. he was actually inside the truck because he thought thought that he was going to be able to drive away. but by the time that he realized it, it was too late, he says that he could feel that the current was trying to pull his vehicle. that's when first responder says he says that they rescued him. i mean, but you can see that all of this area is covered in water. you can see some mobile homes i talked to one another woman who says that she was actually at the hospital overnight and she says that when she drove here this morning, she couldn't get to her home. and so she doesn't

have her medications. she doesn't have her belongings. she was very emotional about that. now i want to tell you about the horner of this home. this is stacy smith's home. you can see that she was able to get out of her home, but you can see that the water levels are very high. now, she was very the emotional because she says that about eight to 15 people, her friends, people she knows, are still back there this area that i was showing you moments ago. and if you take a look, you can see that it's covered in water and she says that these eight to people did not want to get into rescue boats with first responders. she said she tried to convince them that it was best for them to leave and she says that her friends are practically extended family not get into the boats. tickets a lot of them are not wanting to leave their homes because they've been done over the whole life that's all they have. and they don't want to leave whatever belongings they or their

animals that we can't get allow them are just scared are they have nowhere to go at all. so i was trying to tell them, look, it doesn't matter. we're gonna get you out of here and have you take a live look right now. >> you can see the water levels on trees. now, this is giving residents here hope because the water level has dropped a little bit. you can see that the water level has receded, but we know that there was more rain coming overnight then that's what authorities are so worried about. and it just to share more about what stacey shared, stacy's myth was saying that those eight two, 15 people who are still in the river bottom area who don't want to leave they are six, some of them are disabled, some of them are elderly. >> they a have their pets with them. and they're very, very concerned and she's hoping in the next few hours to actually

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>> and this is. cnn perhaps the most dramatic moments so far in donald trump's hush money trial in new york came on friday when hope hicks, his former spokeswoman, took the stand. hicks once a trusted advisor, cry and she described the fallout when the access hollywood tape became public in october 2016, just before the election. and she testified the campaign then worried about a wall street journal story about trump's connection to stormy daniel's former white house lawyer for the trump administration and cnn commentator jim schultes is joining us now. jim, nice to see you. what were your big takeaways from hope hicks? >> testimony so i thought she came across very credible. and she also became you know, she came off in a way that she was sympathetic to the jurors. >> i mean, that moment where she got upset, she had spent the de being very truthful, very open, and i think the jury probably received that well but also there was nothing really

blockbuster here for the prosecution and nothing that was really for the defense, putting a nail and the cost and other prosecution's case. so i think it came out of the balance. the one issue that came out i thought was where after the fact she testified that donald trump said, well, good thing that's a good thing that was taken care of before the election. and i think that was a moment where people are making a big deal about it. but remember, that's kind of hindsight being 2020. so i don't know that that's really going to convince folks that this was all that they make the connection between the campaign in and this this payment. and ultimately remember, you have to get to the point where there's nothing tying the payments itself to donald trump. and none of that came out through this. you need that in order more to make the case. none of that came out through her testimony. but what she did was also impugn the credibility tremendously of michael cohen saying luck. he was always trying to get in the room. he was always trying to be part of

the campaign. he wasn't supposed to be. they didn't want them in the room, but he kept trying to get in the room and she also said he tended to go rogue she gave a lot of background on how the trump campaign was feeling after that access hollywood tape came out. do you think that the prosecution was able to paint a picture of trump? being politically motivated and silencing stormy daniels. i hear you when you're saying you could just say like, yeah, i guess it's hindsight 2020, it is good that it came out before, but do you think they were eight able to drive home. that point that it was politically motivated sure. >> sure. they're driving home. the point that the campaign was concerned about anything especially this issue, right? in that moment. sure. the campaign was very concerned about shore. donald trump was very concerned about it. that's campaigns. that's, that's what you have to worry about. all of types of personal things coming out so sure that's one piece of it, but they also talked about she also talked a lot about donald trump in getting personally involved

in things, right? but in particular, anything that dealt with front-facing commentary, messaging that was going out, how things were said, that he was a micromanager involved in every piece of that. >> but what we didn't get out of that was that he was a micromanager on the other side of it, the business side of it, how things happened, how things were recorded, recorded. >> remember at the end of the day, this is a business records case and they've been unable so far to make any real tie between that business record and donald trump and i'm just curious, as someone who worked as an attorney in the trump white house knows the former president. i hope hicks did a lot. she explained a lot about him, added a lot of color to the way that he runs his business, did run his business, ran his campaign. is that the donald trump, you know did that sound familiar to you? her description of him luck. >> she was she talked a lot about about about how the trump organization work. that was a big business, but it was run like small family business that he was very involved in a lot,

went on in the trump organization and looked governments a little different, in terms of how, how things are run in the processes that they go through. but the one thing she hammered home is that the external facing things, the things that we're hitting the press, the messages that we're going out, that he was intimately involved with day in day out and the white house. and that's certainly the public persona. most important thing to him and we've certainly, we've seen that play out within this microcosm, within this an old trial, right? >> to he wants to manage the public the perception of what this trial means. two, and also what it could mean for his his chances to be reelected our gym shorts, thanks so much. we appreciate it always happy to be on thanks. college students across the country are crossing stage this weekend against the backdrop of intense pro-palestinian demonstrations. more on this torw mornin thank garan campus to dartmouth

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sizes to guarantee a perfect fit now, comfort looks good i learned thoughts on capitol hill and this commencement celebrations or underway at universities here in the and they come amid weeks of unrest at college campuses all across the country where protesters have been calling for for an end to the war in gaza and for schools and divest from israeli linked entities. today pro-palestinian protesters interrupted the commencement ceremony at the university of michigan the event was briefly delayed as police removed those protesters you're watching out there. cnn's rafael romo is live for us at florida state

university in tallahassee and raphael official said precautions today ahead of today's ceremonies, what did they do and what did what did the scene look like well, let me tell you the commencement ceremony here at florida state university. >> jessica in tallahassee, finished about an hour ago, but there's another one coming up as 7:00 p.m. and it was very orderly and calm. and of course, full of excitement for those graduating and their families and loved ones in fact, this was one of six ceremonies that were scheduled to be held. here at fsu between friday and saturday? according to the university, fsu is awarding degrees two more than 7,800 graduates five protesters were arrested during a demonstration here at the fsu campus, but that happened on tuesday afternoon two of them are current students according to the school, and they were banned from campus for one year. and it's still an open question. whether they will be able to graduate. fsu said in a

statement that the arrest occurred after the individuals ignored multiple requests and warnings to comply with a lawful order, officials who said that the university's rules and regulations had been explained repeatedly over several days and that the group had been compliant until the arrest happened. >> not now, there's also a tense week at the university of florida in gainesville, about two hours away from here where nine pro-palestine protesters were arrested monday evening on campus on friday, we spoke with the leader of the same group of pro-palestine protest hotez, uf and gainesville. >> he criticized florida governor ron desantis, who recently said that florida is not going to put up with violent protesters and people who in his words, tried to come into your college launch. let's take a listen we're asking for disclosure a financial transactions of the endowment so that we can ask for divestment from weapons manufacturing there's and companies that are complicit in

the genocide happening in gaza. >> additionally, we want you have to end course partnerships with weapons manufacturers and other such kind of affiliations that the university has jessica protesters are also demanding that the university of florida publicly denounced what they call violence and discrimination against bro pal the scene and students as well as a call for a ceasefire in gaza on the other hand, we also spoke with graduating jewish students who told us some of the protesters seemed unable to understand how hurtful and offensive some of the things protesters are chanting can be. >> let's take a listen people don't understand the meaning of words that they're saying. i think that's the whole issue with this movement as people are seeing that it's a trend and saying from the river to the sea and not realizing that's completely anti-semitic and calling for the genocide of jews. see you have this argument that it's genocide on one side, but really when

you're chanting these things to jews, it means the same thing jessica, again so far the ceremonies here on fsu had been very orderly and com this place, as you can see right now, is empty, but it'll fill up again when the next ceremony starts. >> at 7:00 p.m. eastern. now, back to you rafael romo for us and tallahassee. >> thanks so much for that reporting. >> what we're president trump using his time outside the courtroom to raise more money for his campaign as he courts potential vp picks as well. >> we're gonna have more head on that in the cnn newsroom and also a quick programming note for you, the cnn original series how it really happened with jesse l. martin returns to cnn tomorrow with two new episodes. and you can catch those at 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific chasing life with dr. sanjay gupta. listen wherever you get your podcasts smile.

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